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that are written into law is how divvy up transportation aid or education aid or whatever, dates from the 1930s during the new deal when at love the programs were initiated. the idea was that new york and areas like that were rich. we had to deliberately shift money from new york to the south. >> eliot: congressman, as always you're theoretically correct but to put a thin political veneer over it, the balance of payments of the blue states is negative. the red states is positive and the red states are saying cut government. >> it is grueling they don't recognize it. and that when we need the money they're so reluctant to appropriate it. >> eliot: that's exactly right. there is an esteemiousness about the red states when suddenly the shoe is on the other foot as the cliche stands. >> when there have been disasters in other areas we have always rushed to appropriate as much money as necessary and when the shoe is on the other foot, it suddenly turned off. and how much -- it took us eight years, pete king, myself, to get a bill
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